Monday, June 02, 2008

Cattle market






Euro 08 Campaign Against Trafficking

14 comments:

Istvanski said...

God bless Steve Mclaren. He's done us feminists proud by ensuring our girls won't be trafficked to Euro 08 this summer.

LC said...

Does anybody know where they hold those auctions? I need a new cleaning woman.

Anonymous said...

It's going to be awful isn't it? I can't look.
Still feeling like I've been hit by a truck after reading about the mother murdered in Iraq because she had the temerity to leave her husband who had murdered their daughter for 'dishonoring' him.
I'll have a drink/step outside and scream and try again later.

Annie said...

Arabella, 500,000 women a year are traffiked - and that's the ones they know about. 500,000 a year!

Click on the link to sign the petition to ratify the Council of Europe Convention on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings ASAP, or Amnesty's is here: http://www.amnesty.org.uk/petitions7.asp

Boys, laugh if you like but you won’t be laughing when you’re BURNING IN HELL, you soulless, heartless wretches.

LC said...

I think that prohibition of any kind of vice just doesn't work in the real world. The best way forward is to provide safe, legal, regulated alternatives.

A man wants to buy sex, there's never going to be any shortage of places he can pay for it. If he has a choice between a safe, licenced brothel and a dodgy massage parlour staffed by sex slaves, he's obviously going to choose the legal option - the sex traffickers go out of business.

It's no surprise that if you outlaw the sex trade, the only people who are going to thrive are the worst kind of criminals.

Annie said...

LC, we're in agreement. I think. (You know this petition is to protect the rights of people under European law who've been traffiked to Europe? It's not to prohibit the sex trade, that's like saying outlawing slavery only served to prohibit capitalism.)

The sex workers also agree with you.

Istvanski said...

I find the idea of signing a petition that is presented to an organisation with close knit ties to a horrendously corrupt EU quite laughable. I admire your compassion for this cause but I can't help feeling that if petitions changed anything, they'd ban it. Call me a political pessimist if you wish...

It's easy to focus on specific problems occuring throughout the world but I look at the world as one big problem: humans inhabit it, and as long as there are individuals in existence, you'll never get everyone to think the same way, therefore a problem free utopian existence of love and peace that we all so desperately need cannot be created, instigated and maintained by humans.

The cherry on the cake of 'the joke' however is your assumption that I'll burn in hell. I wonder what organisations such as the Christian Mission for East European Countries, Protestant Women, aid agency of the Swiss Protestant Churches, The Salvation Army, Swiss Catholic Women’s Federation, Swiss Union of Jewish Women’s Organisations and the World Council of Churches think about that. By also suggesting that I'm soulless as well as heartless means you're just as humanly fallible as I am.

Bit of a downer, isn't it?

Annie said...

Istvanski, you are a pessimist if you think that nothing can change and that petitions and protests don’t work. What is the alternative – lie down and play dead when people do things you disagree with? If it wasn’t for campaigns, protests, petitions and dissent, we’d still have a legal slave trade, wouldn’t we? That’s not utopia, that’s politics. You might not want to sign this particular petition but it’s part of a wider campaign to raise awareness by other human rights organisations like Amnesty – I didn’t know these figures until I saw this film yesterday.

And I don’t believe you’ll burn in hell ducky (I don’t believe in hell full stop) or that you’re soulless and heartless – how come you’re allowed to tease but I’m not? Tsk, boys, they can dish it out but they can’t take it...

Istvanski said...

Again, I just have scant regard for petitions going to dodgy organisations, I never mentioned anything about lying down and playing dead. Twisting my words makes you a good politician, Annie. When are we going to see you on Question Time?

As for the teasing thing, me suggesting that similar (fallible) was a tongue in cheek comment following the clash of what you said with the religious organisations that support this particular petition.

I can take the teasing, but can you understand it when it's dished out to you?
Still, no need to worry your pretty little head about it, eh?

PS Did you attend that Circle Line party or did you end up being an "armchair activist"?

;-)

Del said...

This is why the left never gets anywhere. We spend all our time attacking each other instead of the real enemy!

It's things like human trafficking that is one of my main oppositions towards people using things like illegal drugs. It's all tied up together in international organised crime. I'm really not sure legalisation and regulation are really the solution. But I haven't got a better idea, so...

With these sorts of things, you can either sit bank and bemoan the corruption and impossibility or try and engage with these organisations and change things. You CAN change the world. Better an armchair activist than an armchair cynic in my book.

And the tube thing went from being a fun protest to a completely self defeating exercise. I'm glad I decided to binge drink in a bar in Soho instead.

Moominmama said...

Oh thank god. For the first 15 seconds of that ad i thought it was going to be a PETA emotion-fuck to try to scare me out of eating beef, and I would have had to write a nasty, heartless comment about over emotionalizing issues and anthropomorhpizing animals.

As it is I'm glad that ad was about a serious issue that merits that kind of visceral imagery.

I'm sorry I can't sign the petition. (I'm not a UK citizen.)

Annie said...

Istvanski, you seem a bit… angry. Everything alright?

Oh yes, the Circle Line. I was no armchair activist. Mildly tipsy at Farringdon. Fully drunk by Barbican. Snogged a stranger at Moorgate. Projectile vomited at Liverpool Street. Punched a TfL employee and knocked him out at Aldgate. By Tower Hill I was a bit emotional and telling everyone I really, really loved them. All in the name of defending your civil liberties. I hope you’re grateful.

Del, it's divide and rule... I agree. People power! Raaargh!

Hey, CI (who used to be CB!)How lovely to see you in the comments. I'm not sure that video works on second thoughts - I found it emotive and powerful but LC's highlighted the way it could misfire...

Istvanski said...

Me? Angry? Is that what you deduced from my last comment which was free from whole words / sentences being typed in capitals and using symbols such as ;-) to show you I was jesting?
Nice one, Watson.
Glad you found yourself loved by drunken strangers on the Circle Line - huzzah for beer goggles!

Oh, and here's one for good luck ;-)

Annie said...

;-P